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Printed circuit board/sentinal

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Printed circuit board/sentinal

Postby super88dan on Thu May 07, 2009 10:30 pm

I'm replacing my old board with a different one. The one in my car doesn't have the safety buzzer. I'm only doing the board not the insert. Can anybody think of any complications?
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Re: Printed circuit board/sentinal

Postby toolbox on Tue May 12, 2009 7:58 pm

super88dan wrote:I'm replacing my old board with a different one. The one in my car doesn't have the safety buzzer. I'm only doing the board not the insert. Can anybody think of any complications?


Hmmm. Never seen the inside of one of those, but I wouldn't think it would be too complicated... Take some pics and show us what it looks like, I'd be curious to see.
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Re: Printed circuit board/sentinal

Postby super88dan on Wed May 13, 2009 2:16 am

Well, it took a couple of hours but, it seems to be working. I've got more lights than before. Of course, that's not the end of it. My turn signals are giving me some trouble. The wires are frayed and the sockets aren't as "tight" as they used to be, allowing the bulb to not make the best contact. I've already messed around with the turn signals, it was one of the first things I did with the car.
So, now I'm searching for the turn signal assembly. New in the box would be sweet. I know that someone, somewhere has a couple. :(
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Re: Printed circuit board/sentinal

Postby toolbox on Wed May 13, 2009 12:55 pm

super88dan wrote:Well, it took a couple of hours but, it seems to be working. I've got more lights than before. Of course, that's not the end of it. My turn signals are giving me some trouble. The wires are frayed and the sockets aren't as "tight" as they used to be, allowing the bulb to not make the best contact. I've already messed around with the turn signals, it was one of the first things I did with the car.
So, now I'm searching for the turn signal assembly. New in the box would be sweet. I know that someone, somewhere has a couple. :(


If you're looking for the switch assembly, there are a few out there...I see them on ebay once in a while. If you want, I can give you a heads up if I find one. My turn signals are goofy too...you have to put just the right kind of pressure on the lever to make them work. If you just push the lever up or down the dash indicators will flash rapidly while the turn signals themselves don't seem to do anything :?: . I had a shop look at it when I first got it running, and they couldn't find anything wrong with it...to this day I suspect they just didn't want to deal with it. I replaced the turn signal switch in my '73 Chevy once. The only hard part was getting the wires snaked down the steering column with the connector still attached.
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Re: Printed circuit board/sentinal

Postby OldsD88 on Wed May 13, 2009 2:49 pm

For whatever it is worth, my experience with these situations is, the electrical device almost never goes bad. It is most often the mechanical mechanism at the top of the steering column, underneath the horn ring/button.

The first step is to make sure the sockets are making contact, so that the bulbs do burn when power is supplied.

The next step here should be to remove the horn ring/button to see what you can see. It may be necessary to pull the steering wheel itself to see anything at all.

From there on it is a "needle in the haystack" hunt!
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Re: Printed circuit board/sentinal

Postby toolbox on Wed May 13, 2009 6:02 pm

OldsD88 wrote:For whatever it is worth, my experience with these situations is, the electrical device almost never goes bad. It is most often the mechanical mechanism at the top of the steering column, underneath the horn ring/button.

The first step is to make sure the sockets are making contact, so that the bulbs do burn when power is supplied.

The next step here should be to remove the horn ring/button to see what you can see. It may be necessary to pull the steering wheel itself to see anything at all.

From there on it is a "needle in the haystack" hunt!


I'm pretty sure electrical problems are actually caused by gremlins. Greg seems to be able to actually fix his with tools though, so I may be wrong :mrgreen: .
You definitely need to pull the wheel to see anything...the horn ring actually won't come off with the wheel installed (two of the screws holding it on are hidden behind it). It's pretty easy fortunately (I've had mine off more times than I want to think about). You need to pull the center "rocket decoration" thing, then there's just a big nut holding it on. Any steering wheel puller set will remove it. You can unscrew the turn signal stalk, then pull the trim ring off the column...from there, everything is pretty easy to see.
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Re: Printed circuit board/sentinal

Postby super88dan on Wed May 13, 2009 10:08 pm

toolbox wrote:
super88dan wrote:Well, it took a couple of hours but, it seems to be working. I've got more lights than before. Of course, that's not the end of it. My turn signals are giving me some trouble. The wires are frayed and the sockets aren't as "tight" as they used to be, allowing the bulb to not make the best contact. I've already messed around with the turn signals, it was one of the first things I did with the car.
So, now I'm searching for the turn signal assembly. New in the box would be sweet. I know that someone, somewhere has a couple. :(


If you're looking for the switch assembly, there are a few out there...I see them on ebay once in a while. If you want, I can give you a heads up if I find one. My turn signals are goofy too...you have to put just the right kind of pressure on the lever to make them work. If you just push the lever up or down the dash indicators will flash rapidly while the turn signals themselves don't seem to do anything :?: . I had a shop look at it when I first got it running, and they couldn't find anything wrong with it...to this day I suspect they just didn't want to deal with it. I replaced the turn signal switch in my '73 Chevy once. The only hard part was getting the wires snaked down the steering column with the connector still attached.


The "flasher" trick is related to the grounding process. I remembered that from when I had my sixty Buick LeSabre. The blinker thing on the steering column has an adjustment, shown in the repair book, that might work out for me. There is also a part of the same piece that serves as a "spring" of sorts. I plan to pull the lights out and mess around with them after Saturday. The Olds Club of WI has the annual Dust Off at an auto museum about 30 miles away. Then, Sunday, I can get back to goofin' around. I'm still considering the whole electrical swap.
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Can't get Safety Sentinal Working

Postby misercola on Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:28 pm

Hi,

I'm having trouble getting my Safety Sentinel device working. I've replaced the buzzer with a NOS part and have loosened up the knob on the fuel gauge, which had been sticking since I bought the car a year ago. The light bulb on the indicator is working, as is the high beam light next to it. The fuses are also all new. I've turned the speed dial back to 35 to reset it, as the manual indicates. But still nothing. Anyone ever run across this and find a way to resolve it?

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Re: Printed circuit board/sentinal

Postby super88dan on Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:30 pm

I still have some dash light/turn signal issues. Still quite a few things to try. That's what winter is for, isn't it?
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Re: Printed circuit board/sentinal

Postby toolbox on Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:00 pm

super88dan wrote:I still have some dash light/turn signal issues. Still quite a few things to try. That's what winter is for, isn't it?


Yes, that is what winter is for :). Probably not so much for me right now...don't really have garage heat, and it's -12* F outside right now :mrgreen: . While I actually have worked on cars in this kind of weather, it was purely out of necessity :lol: . Maybe when the weather warms up slightly...
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Re: Printed circuit board/sentinal

Postby super88dan on Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:30 am

toolbox wrote:
super88dan wrote:I still have some dash light/turn signal issues. Still quite a few things to try. That's what winter is for, isn't it?


Yes, that is what winter is for :). Probably not so much for me right now...don't really have garage heat, and it's -12* F outside right now :mrgreen: . While I actually have worked on cars in this kind of weather, it was purely out of necessity :lol: . Maybe when the weather warms up slightly...


Talk about "cold storage"!
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Re: Printed circuit board/sentinal

Postby toolbox on Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:49 pm

super88dan wrote:
toolbox wrote:
super88dan wrote:I still have some dash light/turn signal issues. Still quite a few things to try. That's what winter is for, isn't it?


Yes, that is what winter is for :). Probably not so much for me right now...don't really have garage heat, and it's -12* F outside right now :mrgreen: . While I actually have worked on cars in this kind of weather, it was purely out of necessity :lol: . Maybe when the weather warms up slightly...


Talk about "cold storage"!


Seriously! It is getting better though... Still not really excited to work on a car out in it though :mrgreen: .
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